Leahy: Tell everybody who the Hollywood 10 were. Simon: Onboard the flight was my ex-wife and some other radicals.

Leahy: Is the statute of limitations expired, Roger? (Laughter) And so there were six of us on an illegal Cessna flying out of Miami. Simon: Anyway, in this particular one, you couldn’t go to Cuba legally at the time. Ziggy, Forest Gump at these main points in American history or world history. Simon: I’m sort of like the Woody Allen character Ziggy. Every time you come in, Roger, I learn a new, interesting fact about your fascinating, colorful past. Leahy: I didn’t know anything about this. I was invited as a Delgado to the first festival of a new Latin American cinema. I’m a slow learner, but I was out in Hollywood where I was being essentially paid for keeping the other vision. Simon: Well, you learned much faster than I. Leahy: He won, but very shortly thereafter, I became a conservative Republican. In 1980, I managed the reelection campaign of a Democrat running for Congress. Simon: Ronald Reagan and Robert Conquest, my favorite. Look at some of the great conservatives in history started out as liberal. Leahy: No, no, no, Roger, that you are in the buckle of the Bible Belt and we believe in forgiveness. Simon: As you know, shamefully I have a leftist past. Simon: The whole thing about Cuba is you were very, very sad. Simon: They must have gotten there by a coup. Leahy: When I hear all these things, Roger, I think no, these guys didn’t really get elected.

(Chuckles) This is the secretary of state of the United States, mind you. Simon: No, it’s racism in the United States and he has gone to the UN asking them to investigate us.

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